Vin 16545 found in Greece with Saudi plates

Subsection of cars originally sent out to the Middle East

Re: Vin 16545 found in Greece with Saudi plates

Postby ALEXAKOS » Tue May 12, 2015 12:04 pm

A Van wrote:Mmm I reckon the glass broke and they changed the glass
Cat bypass is prob stock from the factory as there was prob no unleaded fuel available

Where would they find a similar cut and curved glass. And if it as cut to shape why not include the drop glass moulding,?
VIN 5992/Body 5697/Frame 6000/Grey/Manual/LEDs/HALOs/SPAX/DMOCO SS shifter/MOMO/Custom SS exhaust/K&N/SS: f.fascia mounts,brake+clutch lines+tank cover+heat shlds/Posi-quiet brake pds/Poly bushing: steering +f.sway bar +radius.
User avatar
ALEXAKOS
 
Posts: 1300
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:03 am
Location: +37°07424'N +23°80951'E
VIN #: MMMMMCMXCII
Spaxed

Re: Vin 16545 found in Greece with Saudi plates

Postby Dangermouse » Tue May 12, 2015 12:51 pm

Fantastic pictures Alex. It's amazing that the community is so world wide that these things keep popping up. Thanks for documenting this for us. You never know when they will decide they need the space.

Some questions:

How do you know it is 16545 and did you get a picture of the window vin plate?
Was the driver side window possibly Perspex/plexiglass?
It occurs to me that a selfie-stick would have been useful to photograph the odometer
Has the car been there 20 years or 30 years? At the start you say 20, but then you note that the engine is only 4 years old.

That's quite a drive from Saudi to Athens, google maps says 4400km from the centre of the country. Would love to know the whole story
Dermot
vin 2743
Ex-Dunmurry-ite,
but now nr. Atlanta GA
US o'A

Vin 2743 – Black, Auto, non-lowered, non-Spaxed, non-carbed, non-turbo’d, non-de-catted, just as Neal drove it on the boat in August ‘81
User avatar
Dangermouse
 
Posts: 1401
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:32 pm
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
VIN #: 2743

Re: Vin 16545 found in Greece with Saudi plates

Postby ALEXAKOS » Tue May 12, 2015 1:01 pm

Mouse,
At first I wrote over 20 years. Today I was told its in there since 1987.
VIN Was given to me from their computer registry. I was not allowed to document any codes or numbers of the confiscated vehicle. Me standing in there was actually illegal. Not to mention the photographs.

I am sure it was not driven to Greece. It was surely shipped here for the Arab owner.
After 6 months, foreign cars are obligated to leave the country. I suppose the Arab owner didn't care much for this crapy Renault driver and let it be impounded by the government.
I was told this vehicle still has a pending court hearing with the owner who never came back for it. That's why this never made it to an auction sale as all other cars in this lot.

2 days ago I met a guy who restores willy jeeps. He was excited to see my Delo cause he could remember one with Arab plates right around the time the Bttf film aired!
I was like WHAT REALLY??? Tell me more... But he had to leave. So I will meet up with him to get more info hopefully.
VIN 5992/Body 5697/Frame 6000/Grey/Manual/LEDs/HALOs/SPAX/DMOCO SS shifter/MOMO/Custom SS exhaust/K&N/SS: f.fascia mounts,brake+clutch lines+tank cover+heat shlds/Posi-quiet brake pds/Poly bushing: steering +f.sway bar +radius.
User avatar
ALEXAKOS
 
Posts: 1300
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:03 am
Location: +37°07424'N +23°80951'E
VIN #: MMMMMCMXCII
Spaxed

Re: Vin 16545 found in Greece with Saudi plates

Postby Dangermouse » Tue May 12, 2015 1:14 pm

So, in theory, if one could track down the Saudi owner and he sold it to you for 1 euro, could one get it back from the Greek government or would there be huge fines etc greatly outweighing the value of the car?

You would think this warehouse represents a tapable source of income for a government that needs a euro or two.......
Dermot
vin 2743
Ex-Dunmurry-ite,
but now nr. Atlanta GA
US o'A

Vin 2743 – Black, Auto, non-lowered, non-Spaxed, non-carbed, non-turbo’d, non-de-catted, just as Neal drove it on the boat in August ‘81
User avatar
Dangermouse
 
Posts: 1401
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:32 pm
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
VIN #: 2743

Re: Vin 16545 found in Greece with Saudi plates

Postby ALEXAKOS » Tue May 12, 2015 1:16 pm

Mouse... For one stop bouncing between forums... I can't keep up.
Secondly.....
The Greek government will play ANY GAME if the officials involved make a euro* or two;)
( * in thousands)
VIN 5992/Body 5697/Frame 6000/Grey/Manual/LEDs/HALOs/SPAX/DMOCO SS shifter/MOMO/Custom SS exhaust/K&N/SS: f.fascia mounts,brake+clutch lines+tank cover+heat shlds/Posi-quiet brake pds/Poly bushing: steering +f.sway bar +radius.
User avatar
ALEXAKOS
 
Posts: 1300
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:03 am
Location: +37°07424'N +23°80951'E
VIN #: MMMMMCMXCII
Spaxed

Re: Vin 16545 found in Greece with Saudi plates

Postby ALEXAKOS » Tue May 12, 2015 1:43 pm

A Van wrote:Cat bypass is prob stock from the factory as there was prob no unleaded fuel available


Al,
Isn't there a manifest of some kind that has all vehicles listed that were exported to the ME?
VIN 5992/Body 5697/Frame 6000/Grey/Manual/LEDs/HALOs/SPAX/DMOCO SS shifter/MOMO/Custom SS exhaust/K&N/SS: f.fascia mounts,brake+clutch lines+tank cover+heat shlds/Posi-quiet brake pds/Poly bushing: steering +f.sway bar +radius.
User avatar
ALEXAKOS
 
Posts: 1300
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:03 am
Location: +37°07424'N +23°80951'E
VIN #: MMMMMCMXCII
Spaxed

Re: Vin 16545 found in Greece with Saudi plates

Postby Dangermouse » Tue May 12, 2015 1:57 pm

ALEXAKOS wrote:Mouse... For one stop bouncing between forums... I can't keep up.


:D
Dermot
vin 2743
Ex-Dunmurry-ite,
but now nr. Atlanta GA
US o'A

Vin 2743 – Black, Auto, non-lowered, non-Spaxed, non-carbed, non-turbo’d, non-de-catted, just as Neal drove it on the boat in August ‘81
User avatar
Dangermouse
 
Posts: 1401
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:32 pm
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
VIN #: 2743

Re: Vin 16545 found in Greece with Saudi plates

Postby A Van » Tue May 12, 2015 4:05 pm

There is sparse information which lists 50 cars, I have some vin information which until recently confirms vin 11741-11789 which makes 49 cars... I do now have the missing vin after the Kuwaiti dealership assigned two employees to dig through their archives.

I am in the process of writing an article for a forthcoming book and updating the info on here with latest findings.

The car you have found along with other confirmed Saudi vins are not part of the 50 Middle East cars which the factory documents show.

Remember the ME cars were all identical spec and automatic transmission.

The Saudi cars so far found have all been in 16xxx so they must have been revinned by Consolidated
What we don't know yet is whether they went to the U.S. Or straight from the factory ?
Alistair V

Vin 11753 - B/Auto - Kuwait, painted black
Ex Vin 11766 - B/Auto - Dubai
Ex 11622, 6064

RIP Mike 'Bozzy' Bosworth 19/04/1969 - 31/12/2015


Official Spokesperson and Media Liaison Officer, and off road Buggy flipper
DeLorean Club

The Future's Bright....
The Future's
DeLorean Club
User avatar
A Van
 
Posts: 7813
Joined: Fri May 29, 2009 6:33 pm
VIN #: 11753
Spaxed

Re: Vin 16545 found in Greece with Saudi plates

Postby ALEXAKOS » Tue May 12, 2015 4:15 pm

A Van wrote:
Remember the ME cars were all identical spec and automatic transmission.

Al
This baby is manual!
VIN 5992/Body 5697/Frame 6000/Grey/Manual/LEDs/HALOs/SPAX/DMOCO SS shifter/MOMO/Custom SS exhaust/K&N/SS: f.fascia mounts,brake+clutch lines+tank cover+heat shlds/Posi-quiet brake pds/Poly bushing: steering +f.sway bar +radius.
User avatar
ALEXAKOS
 
Posts: 1300
Joined: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:03 am
Location: +37°07424'N +23°80951'E
VIN #: MMMMMCMXCII
Spaxed

Re: Vin 16545 found in Greece with Saudi plates

Postby A Van » Tue May 12, 2015 4:16 pm

I have a newspaper article from August 1982 which says they sent 15 cars to Saudi Arabia, but that would have been before the revinning process?
Alistair V

Vin 11753 - B/Auto - Kuwait, painted black
Ex Vin 11766 - B/Auto - Dubai
Ex 11622, 6064

RIP Mike 'Bozzy' Bosworth 19/04/1969 - 31/12/2015


Official Spokesperson and Media Liaison Officer, and off road Buggy flipper
DeLorean Club

The Future's Bright....
The Future's
DeLorean Club
User avatar
A Van
 
Posts: 7813
Joined: Fri May 29, 2009 6:33 pm
VIN #: 11753
Spaxed

PreviousNext

Return to Middle Eastern Cars

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests

About us

The DeLorean Club UK forum for European DeLorean owners and enthusiasts. The largest DeLorean forum in Europe.

Registration is FREE and all registered users get full access