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Re: Classic car status

Postby DMC1983 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:17 am

So thanks to the MOT extension, my car wont have to go through any more official MOTs. Not sure why it says 1982 here though as on the V5 it says 1981 :think:
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All the talk earlier in the thread about jan 81s not being eligible till jan 2022 was down to the fact that the dvla hadnt updated the website. So cars registered as 81s will be eligible as of next year
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Re: Classic car status

Postby GDTDMC12 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:46 am

Ryan, I would use the link to contact DVSA to ensure the details are recorded correctly to avoid issues come January 2021 with the first registration date currently showing 1982. G.
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Re: Classic car status

Postby Rissy » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:39 pm

There's clearly huge discrepancies in information within the different departments of the DVLA on a per vehicle basis. It's pretty shocking actually.

The V5 is the thing which is first referred to (by the post office by the way!) when first starting out the process of claiming historic vehicle status (and therefore all the privileges which goes in hand with that). BUT, after first assessment, the "pack" for that vehicle gets sent to he DVLA for checking, and confirmation before the vehicle has its status adjusted and you are allowed to start operating under that description (you get your MOT-free vehicle Taxed with no money down).
As has clearly been discussed by many owners, me included; that their V5 document details do not match the Vehicle taxing web-page details. At some point, the two must have to be assessed against each other during the application checking and confirmation process (otherwise, what the hell is this process all about!?).
Only once all the vehicles details align, will the vehicle be classified to be a historic vehicle. (You'd expect)

I would encourage great reservation of expectation to anyone starting to down this line with a knowledge of misalignment in their vehicles documentation/statistics without either trying, or succeeding to have the discrepancies corrected. (trying to do this, of course you will probably have to provide proof of evidence to support claims) Otherwise the facts about your vehicle could come back to bite you in the arse if trying to claim too early (especially in the case of it being in an accident for insurance purposes - heaven forbid of course).

Of course, all my comments are being made based on the assumption that the DVLA has a modicum of sense and professionalism about them, which of course we all know, they don't.
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Re: Classic car status

Postby mec » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:23 pm

Does this mean i cant get historic status until december next year ....

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Re: Classic car status

Postby Rissy » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:04 am

You have the same registration date as my car, despite mine being built in May and yours in October. Both December 1981. However, it really doesn’t matter what date they apply to it because you still have to cross the threshold of Jan 1st the following year after your car was first built. There’s a part on the govnt webpage which states if you don’t know when your car was first built, but it was first registered within the first week of a year, then it’s accepted by then that the car must have been built by at least a week before that, ergo, by Jan 1st.

So for a 1981 DeLorean, as long as your details shows any date in 1981 as a build date, then come Jan 1st, 2022, you can start the process of applying for historic vehicle status.
For a 1982 DeLorean, you’ll have to wait until Jan 1st 2023.
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Re: Classic car status

Postby Rissy » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:48 am

Correction. The government also squeeze classic owners until the threshold of the change of financial year of the valid year your car is recognised as being over 40 years old. So for a 1981 DeLorean, you still cannot apply until after April 1st 2022, and for a 1982 DeLorean, it'll be April 1st 2023.

They know how to twist facts and manipulate rules to still seem reasonable, yet keep you on the money tree for as long as possible eh. Wring you dry they do.
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Engine: #2839

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Re: Classic car status

Postby bandit » Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:28 pm

Yes and don’t be surprised after this covid bollox that the government are so strapped for cash they don’t change the rules just as our cars reach the threshold.
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Re: Classic car status

Postby Rissy » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:28 pm

bandit wrote:Yes and don’t be surprised after this covid bollox that the government are so strapped for cash they don’t change the rules just as our cars reach the threshold.


I’m waiting for exactly this myself. It happened before under labour government, a short time before our cars would have been valid when it was originally set at 30yrs, not 40yrs. It was the Conservatives who brought it back, but set it at 40yrs. I guess trying to compromise a bit between both sides of the argument for/against it.
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Black Leather Interior
Chassis: #1073
Engine: #2839

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Re: Classic car status

Postby eric » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:00 am

Its a fair point we are in a sizeable hole financially and its not going to come from a single source, if they can save million or 2 from adding a year on from the classics. I wont hold my breath...
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