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Postby Darren C » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:48 pm

Biff wrote:Ohhh, now I'm really confused!
Are my USA lights (no reason to believe not original) flat beamed?
Do I need to change them at all?


Hi Biff,

Your car in US form will have the "sidelight" position of the light switch wired so that the front indicators (for clarity thats the ones down the recesses in the bumper) front amber side markers and rear red side markers and rear red lights come on.
In US this is legal.
In UK you need to show a white light at the front of the car as a side light, so the US front indicators in amber won't pass an MOT or comply with VOSA regulations.

As Mike said you can either replace your headlights with ones with a pea bulb inside as a side light, fit alternative Lada indicators with a white sidelight or angel eyes. Thats really all options you have. What ever you do it's always best to revert the recessed bumper amber lights to indicators only, not on constant. MOT centres dont like burning amber facing forwards. The side markers are fine, so you can simply leave as is or if you really want to, convert to indicators. Either is MOT acceptable.

The LHD headlights fitted for US cars originally had a pattern molded into the glass that directs the beam to the right, in much the same way as RHD cars direct the beam to the left to avoid dazzling oncoming traffic.

Dan's car was the exception as at some point in the past the previous owner changed the lamps for flat beamed or non directional molded glass lens lamps. He had an accepting MOT tester who passed the car in this form.

Odds are your car will have standard LHD directional beam lights fitted, in which case the pattern will throw the light to the Right and it will not pass an MOT.

Hope that clears it all up. We're all time served Delorean owners here and sometimes I understand our banter may confuse the newbies :D
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Re: Hello and welcome to the DeLorean EuroTec Forum -Say Hi

Postby Biff » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:02 pm

Ahh much clearer, I can see where you're coming from, feel much more enlightened now.
Thanks for shining some light on the subject! :whistle:
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Postby A Van » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:34 pm

Well written Darren
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Postby Biff » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:35 pm

Directional?

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And does anyone know what lada (indicator) lights fit?
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Postby Dan 6511 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:02 pm

I think they were actually flat beam from the factory Darren. When in the states in June I bought a new set of sealed beams ($20 for all 4!) to keep as spares and they are flat beam too, no kick up on the right at all. The ones in Biff's photo look flat too.

Also my 2011 mustang was flat beam and Alan Hammond's 2012 Challenger is flat beam too, and both had to go through a vosa IVA test. I think its just an american thing to not bother with a beam pattern??

It is correct though that the standard amber front sidelight will need to be changed to white unless you have a friendly mot tester.

Mine went through MOT like this, then swapped them back to the full amber ones afterwards:

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Postby Dangermouse » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:36 am

I just looked at the new Sylvania Silverlights that I bought and they are flat.
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Postby arranj » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:37 am

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Postby arranj » Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:38 am

Dan - you've got 4 OEM headlights?
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Re: Hello and welcome to the DeLorean EuroTec Forum -Say Hi

Postby Darren C » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:17 am

Interesting stuff Arran/Dan

My car had LHD directional not flat beam lights fitted so I decided to change them over. The rules have relaxed a little in the last few years regarding beam direction presumably since we joined the EU and vehicles now move more freely.
Link below explains the rules:

http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_180.htm
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Re: Hello and welcome to the DeLorean EuroTec Forum -Say Hi

Postby Dan 6511 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:34 pm

arranj wrote:Dan - you've got 4 OEM headlights?


Yes. My car is totally stock apart from Fog light on the rear (which the tester didn't even bother testing!)
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