ECA 5040 Euro Spec 50 car Belgian trial.

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ECA 5040 Euro Spec 50 car Belgian trial.

Postby A Van » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:48 pm

Interesting ECA worth reading concerning the change of tyres for the European DMC-12, and mentions a 50 car Belgian trial.

It was subsquently cancelled as the speed of 210km/h as the speed of the Euro model was lower then expected.

Raised on 22/1/82 it was cancelled on 23/8/82.

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Re: ECA 5040 Euro Spec 50 car Belgian trial.

Postby DeLorean Cars » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:09 pm

The "Euro model" in question would have been Nigel Mills' #5565 which has the shorter final drive, effectively reducing top speed capability, even though the engine is more powerful.
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Re: ECA 5040 Euro Spec 50 car Belgian trial.

Postby jerzybondov » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:26 pm

DeLorean Cars wrote:The "Euro model" in question would have been Nigel Mills' #5565 which has the shorter final drive, effectively reducing top speed capability, even though the engine is more powerful.


Accidentally clicked on this topic and saw this post. I'd say b*ll*cks to the above frankly, as the standard 5th gear is actually too LONG to be ideal for hitting top speed (5th is good for 173mph at 6500rpm) - so a shorter final drive would actually help the car get into the right part of the rev range to hit top speed in 5th, as opposed to 4th with the standard box (which will take you to 135mph at 6500rpm).

If the euro-spec DeLorean couldn't reach 210km/h (130mph) with 155bhp and the more appropriate final drive, then I suggest the primary reason was a poor drag co-efficient... (the same reason why a stock D won't top 120mph, when a 2002 Mini Cooper with 15bhp less can do 5mph more, despite having a notoriously un-slippery profile by modern standards)
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Re: ECA 5040 Euro Spec 50 car Belgian trial.

Postby delorean12uk » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:08 am

jerzybondov wrote: when a 2002 Mini Cooper with 15bhp less can do 5mph more, despite having a notoriously un-slippery profile by modern standards)


Gez, BHP is determined by Torque vs acceleration, and your mini is smaller and lighter than a delorean
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Re: ECA 5040 Euro Spec 50 car Belgian trial.

Postby jerzybondov » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:25 am

delorean12uk wrote:
jerzybondov wrote: when a 2002 Mini Cooper with 15bhp less can do 5mph more, despite having a notoriously un-slippery profile by modern standards)


Gez, BHP is determined by Torque vs acceleration, and your mini is smaller and lighter than a delorean


I was actually referring to the standard 115bhp Cooper which is actually surprisingly similar in weight to a DeLorean (1175kg)! But anyway, BHP is torque x wheel rpm isn't it? So providing your wheels have a similar circumference there won't be a lot in it?
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