A610 3.0L PRV V6 DeLorean ‘Legacy 2’ Project For Sale

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A610 3.0L PRV V6 DeLorean ‘Legacy 2’ Project For Sale

Postby Chris Hawes » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:30 pm

A610 3.0L PRV V6 DeLorean ‘Legacy 2’ Project For Sale


Overview
The below project was designed around replacing the older, normally aspirated odd fire 2.85L PRV V6 in my DeLorean DMC-12 with a later even fired PRV which was better suited to turbo charging. The turbo charged A610 3.0L PRV fitted this brief perfectly, as it helps to keep the original ‘PRV’ look, sound and feel; but with an evolved, enhanced solution much like how DMC would have approached this, should the technology/time been available during the DeLorean’s development cycle (which was up to the January 1981 launch). As such, anyone wanting a PRV powered car (A310, A610, Alpine, Venturi, kit car, to name just a few) to maintain a level of ‘purity’ yet enjoy the benefits of a compact, forged, evolved solution to experience a performance increase as well as maintaining reliability, please read on…

The information and parts below represent a huge head start into the project which was managed from the beginning by John Law of JL Engineering https://www.facebook.com/jlengineeringuk at the helm. JL Engineering was chosen based on the high quality of similar other ‘super’ PRV builds. JL uses only the very best components and suppliers to produce a stronger internal base to cope with being able to produce a reliable 300 to 350HP when utilising modern EFI and twin turbos. The new components listed below (rods, pistons, liners etc) will be good for up to 600 wheel HP.

Project Brief
A bit of background of the DeLorean Turbo legacy:-
There are a few DeLorean Twin Turbos out there, but they are based on using the original odd-file 2.85 V6 with intercoolers (the way Legend Industries were tackling it). https://www.pjgrady.co.uk/legend-industries
Legend were working with the technology of the time i.e. the DeLorean had been released in early 1981 and to address the low power output they were tasked to develop single and twin turbo options. The odd fire PRV version can only be boosted mildly, hence why I wanted the ‘Legacy 2’ to take Legend’s legacy of their twin turbo approach; but with the benefits of the later even fire PRV, EFI and turbo technology now available.

Reason for sale
Although I started my conversion project based around the ‘purity’ of an upgraded ‘forged’ PRV 3.0 V6 (A610) twin turbo solution I realised part way through that a normally aspirated LS3 V8 would be more suited to my requirements i.e. normally aspirated V8 instead of a twin turbo charged V6. As such, the parts below will give anyone who wants to pursue a ‘super’ PRV project a huge head start.

Progressing Further
JL Engineering has confirmed they are very happy to continue the project with the new owner of the parts if required. Currently all of the parts listed below are at my home in Milton Keynes.

Condition of the three groups for sale
The parts below have been separated into three groups:-

GROUP 1 - original overhauled A610 engine block and other aluminium ancillaries have been vapour blasted and then applied with an ACF-50 anti-corrosion aircraft grade coating
GROUP 2 - used A610 parts that were part of the original factory A610 engine
GROUP 3 - Brand new (forged where applicable) parts specified by JL Engineering and manufactured from their various specialists

Descriptions & Photos Of Available Items
Each item below has a sample photo plus a link to the relevant image gallery

A610 Engine Block
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More images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/6ZInaTT4sGXZQUun1
Later version of the 3L even fire with under piston oil squirters

A310 DeLorean Sump
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More images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nN3bzcFo4L6c4HcM2
This sump is from the Renault A310 and was the stock sump also used by the DeLorean DMC-12

A610 Crankshaft
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More images: https://photos.app.goo.gl/lP5JUFRcr5AK1BsD2

A610 Cylinder Heads
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A610 Engine Mount Plate
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Modified for oil drains and a breather

A610 Rocker Covers
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A610 Rocker Shafts & Associated Parts
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A610 Timing Chain Cover
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A610 Timing Chain Parts
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A610 Water Transfer Pipe
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A610 Laser Cut 36-1 Engine Trigger Wheel (Brand New)
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Forged Carrillo Connecting rods (Brand New)
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Six 3 litre Carrillo connecting rods. Carrillo are the market leader for connecting rods. Specified by JL Engineering for this project.

Westwood Ductile Liners (Brand New)
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Six 3 litre ductile iron liners. Four times stronger than OEM and bed in better than stock steel liners. Specified by JL Engineering for this project.

JE Pistons (Brand New)
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Six bespoke forged pistons specified by JL Engineering for this project.

SPA Gauges (Brand New)
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Brand new oil pressure and turbo boost gauges which have an anti-glare coating. SPA installed a white LED backlight in each when ordered to match the DeLorean; as the off the shelf models at the time only came with blue or red LED back lights. Photos show the optimal position within a DeLorean to not obscure view. The next phase would have been to make a fibreglass pod to mimic the larger dashboard binnacle.

TTV Bespoke Specification Dual Plate Clutch
TTV Custom Billet Flywheel (Both Brand New)

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300-350hp takes you to the threshold of the higher end limit of a single plate setup. A single plate would mean a heavier pedal and be a larger heavier unit. A single would behave much like the standard clutch but be at the limits of its design with the car running full power. A single clutch could struggle with track days etc. The twin plate is lighter both in weight and on the pedal. It may feel slightly grippier than a standard clutch but will enable smoother shifting when driving harder. The twin plate will hold the torque without issue.

The price for all items listed above is £9,700 which includes FREE worldwide shipping. I will however consider serious offers if the buyer is prepared to organise and pay for their own collection. I’d rather sell as a job lot but if someone just wants one or two of the three groups as covered above, then contact me with an offer.

Other Information
Please note: I’ve also advertised this project elsewhere.

For any queries please email me in the first instance: legacy2@legacy3.co.uk

Postage: Free postage OR Collection from Milton Keynes

Collection: 15 minutes from M1 J14/J15 and 40 minutes from M40 J10/11 (MK13). Evenings from 6pm and weekends. Week day collections could be possibly arranged but would need to be communicated and agreed in advance.
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Re: A610 3.0L PRV V6 DeLorean ‘Legacy 2’ Project For Sale

Postby jerzybondov » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:03 am

Wow, what a big job this was / is! Where did you find the original A610 engine? What year is it?
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Re: A610 3.0L PRV V6 DeLorean ‘Legacy 2’ Project For Sale

Postby Chris Hawes » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:33 pm

jerzybondov wrote:Wow, what a big job this was / is! Where did you find the original A610 engine? What year is it?


From the 50K mile concours car that Clarkson wrecked in his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWGchdsJaA0 Clarkson - Supercar Showdown DVD released November 2007 (it was not Top Gear as per the title of the YouTube listing) in time for all of the Christmas shoppers. The wreck was left for the landowner to dispose of and he listed the engine and gearbox on eBay. I bought it November 2007 on eBay as it isn't every day an A610 and UN1 end up for sale.

Story is that the poor owner had no idea that he was selling it to one of Clarkson's production team. They could have just bought an average car to wreck :cry:

Like the DeLorean, it is rear engined so the engine and transmission (it was the proper UN1 and not the earlier, weaker 369 version that DeLoreans have) survived the crash. I always intended to have both dismantled and x-rayed (which I did for the block as the Legacy2 project went ahead) and whilst I was at it I wanted to have forged internals. The block used in the end (and listed for sale and now sold) wasn't the one from this car as JL Engineering had a slightly later version available that had zero corrosion (this one had a very small amount).

In the clip above Clarkson complains about the steering locking up. The numpty didn't realise that his knee was knocking the remote steering lock that had been installed to drive the car remotely..... there was nothing wrong with the steering, just him :clap:

From memory it was a 1994 A610, you can imagine how the previous owner felt seeing what happened to it....
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Re: A610 3.0L PRV V6 DeLorean ‘Legacy 2’ Project For Sale

Postby Chris Hawes » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:36 pm

The Legacy2 project has now been SOLD and going into a different type of car (interior style and colour scheme is different), which means the gauges remain available and are best suited for a DeLorean project or similar white on black gauge layout. They can be viewed here:-

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