SOLD - VIN 10264

[steve852]

lol @ Gez

Do you guys know owt about chasses being painted black? The underside (and only the underside) of this car has been painted black. The bit at the rear of the engine bay is still original cream. There's a bit of rust around the front suspension on both sides that I could see (pics below). Back suspension area appears to be rustless and fine. Any ideas??

Lots of blury photos: http://imageshack.us/g/849/imag0384q.jpg/


... ALSO... This car, vs Arran's recently posted £18k auto 2002 new build: http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/cla ... rno/145520

[RobvdVeer]

lol @ Gez

Do you guys know owt about chasses being painted black? The underside (and only the underside) of this car has been painted black. The bit at the rear of the engine bay is still original cream. There's a bit of rust around the front suspension on both sides that I could see (pics below). Back suspension area appears to be rustless and fine. Any ideas??

My car has a mostly black frame on the front as well. It's tectyl (on mine for sure). It's there to provide proper rust protection after a big welding job without doing a frame-off. Mind you, that 13 years ago, before that age of internet, nobody was doing frame-offs, and no company existed in europe to assist you on the job. Yeah it is a lame excuse, i know.

[arranj]

Yes, as Rob said. This is what a regular garage will tend to do in the aftermath of chassis welding work. I also have a two-tone black/grey frame. At least it beats grey/brown!

As for the difference in the cars - looks like £5k to me! I don't think either have been used that much, but I would be very tempted by the £18K "new" one! More on this thread: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=2573

[bozzzydmc]

Perhaps ask the seller why only part of the chassis has been painted black ?

Must be a reason for it ?

18k car looks like a bargain ...

Mike

[Chriss]

As far as I understand late cars, when the company was in trouble, that landed on the east coast were stored in a field and they had problems with frames so they painted them black to protect them. My old 83 east coast car's frame was black on the underside, I managed to clean most of the paint off.

Of course do not know if it applys to this car or if that was a PO

[Admin-bloke]

Perhaps ask the seller why only part of the chassis has been painted black ?

Must be a reason for it ?

18k car looks like a bargain ...

Mike

It does doesn't it !

[steve852]

I've just today learnt that the black coating is a sort of tar that they used to paint over the epoxy to add extra insullation from rust. Apparently fairly common. Taking the car on would eventually require removal of this black substance in order to re-touch the epoxy - apparently quite a pain in the arse job. But the steel underneath is most likely to be immaculate

I saw the car face to face last night. I must admit, it is a beauty. There are less than 10,000 miles on the clock, and secondary indicators support that - the leather on the driver's seat where he gets in isn't much worn, the gearstick isn't smooth or polished and the peddles likewise don't appear worn down.

The interior was pretty immaculate. No cracking or real strains. The panels all fit together well, and the glove box seams are perfect. Exterior-wise the bodywork was near immaculate also, with the exception of a 50-pence piece sized dent on the t-panel near the driver's door. The drivers door currently sags, but can obviously be easily fixed. The engine bay also looks good (from my limited knowledge) with very little grime or rust. I had a spin in it and the engines sounded good and the ride was very smooth. Craig radio/cassette still in place and original carpets barely look worn.

Overall, great car and apparently one of the best example all-originals in the UK at present

[RobvdVeer]

That tar you describe (which is probably tectyl) can mean 2 things:

[*] they did a good job on the frame rust, cleaned, welded and recoated.
[*] they did a lousy job on the frame rust, just painted it.

This can only mean one thing: the owner was aware of the rust and tackled it. It's a good guess to assume the first bullet applies, and it was fixed adequately. Only an idiot would just coat the frame without removing the rust. In my opinion it is actually a better sign than unnoticed rust under the old epoxy (which actually was the state of my car when i bought it 12 years back).

Just my opinion though.

[Ian Titley]

Seems to be a lot of speculation about the black coating on the chassis. I can answer the question because I did it. It's Waxoyl. The chassis was completely immaculate from end to end, so to help keep it that way I applied waxoyl about seven years ago and this does form an excellent barrier against rust.So the chassis still should be immaculate underneath.

Also dent in the roof has now gone and looking excellent. Now just got to remove lowered springs and put originals back on. Just replaced gear gater too with new one.

[A Van]

Well that answers that Ian!

Thanks for clearing that up, how did you remove dent?