VIN 3695 - Dutch Rob's Car

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Re: VIN 3695 - Dutch Rob's Car

Postby RobvdVeer » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:06 pm

for posterety and my personal benefit: http://dmctalk.org/showthread.php?8285- ... ns-from-A1)
How to change the window motors (instructions from A1)

When I was having problems with my window motor I called A1 electrics and asked them some questions. They sent me everything they had on the motor and instructions on how to replace it. I thought I would share what they gave me. They told me this stuff usually goes to mechanics and not private individuals because that is who they mostly sell to. Just thought it may help someone along the way. Here are their written instructions followed by the photos they sent me.

A 1 WINDOW MOTOR REGULATOR

Removal of DeLorean Window Regulator
and
Installation of A 1 Electric Window Regulator


Tools and Materials Needed:

Duct tape
Long flat face screw driver ( 14” or longer shaft)
10-12” long extension bar or smooth tool
Large Phillips screw driver
10 mm socket
¼ “ eight inch extension bar.
Socket wrench
10 mm x 12 mm long, fine thread machine screw ( two for two motors )
10 mm fine thread nut ( two for two motors )
Super glue

Note do not use electrical harness supplied.

1.Remove upper and lower interior trim panels per instructions in DeLorean service manual. Follow instructions to avoid damage and difficulty.
2.Apply duct tape to stainless steel service access openings to avoid cutting hands.
3.Tape moveable window to allow lowering window approx. 2”
4.Note, when moveable window is separated from regulator, it can slide off guides and drop down into interior of door.
5.Remove screws holding DeLorean motor bracket to the door.
6.Remove bracket screws from window regulator and remove bracket from door.
7.Remove elbow screw from door pull handle.
8.Disconnect DeLorean motor terminal connection wire leads at the motor and note polarity.
9.Move motor toward front of door so as to lower the moveable window approx, 2”.
10.Remove the two nuts connecting the regulator tube butterfly tab to window rail.
11.Remove DeLorean motor and regulator tube from interior of door.
12.Remove four screws connecting door pull handle bracket and remove bracket from door.
13.Disconnect door lock rod on one end and lower out of way.
14.Remove A 1 Electric mounting bracket screws.
15.Super glue black spacers to back side of bracket.
16.Remove motor from the mounting bracket after noting the exact position of the ¼ square drive in the bracket hole,(suggest using magic marker).
17.Place A 1 Electric motor inside door at same location as original motor by inserting regulator tube inside door through the service access opening.
18.Insert motor mount bracket and reconnect to the motor noting the exact position of the ¼” square drive. Note, if misalignment has occurred, use ¼ ”socket extension to realign.
19.Note that three black spacers are in place.
20.Connect the regulator tube butterfly to the window rail and install the two nuts.
21.Insert pull handle bracket into place but do not insert the four screws at this time.
22.Connect the regulator tube lower tab to the pull handle bracket using the bracket hole nearest the back of edge of door or rear of car.
23.Thread the 25 mm screw one- half way into bracket hole.
24.Install the four door handle bracket screws and tighten.
25.Tighten the 25 mm screw the remaining length.
26.Connect the motor wiring keeping connector’s flat side face to face. Test polarities by operating the window switch; reverse wires if necessary.
27.Place one of the offset mounting brackets at the side of the motor through the service access opening.
28.Place flat side of bracket to the door bottom screw hole nearest rear of car.(It is easier to install the screw from the inside of the access opening and apply the washer and nut from motor has been mounted the outside of the service access opening).
29. Connect the opposite end of the offset bracket to the motor mount using the threaded hole nearest the red tube. Use a 10 mm short screw so as not to contact motor when tightened.
30.Use a 10-12’ long dull rod, push the red tube toward the front of the door . Note, the red retraction tube is a guide to direct the regulator coil spring without restriction.
31.Remove tape from movable window .
32.Motor has been mounted. Before raising and lowering the window , loosen the two rear window rail nuts, raise and lower the window two or three times with the window switch for self alignment of the rail.
33.Tighten the two rail nuts.
34.Raise and lower the window. If the window tends to bind when lowering, rearrange red retraction tube to eliminate restriction .
35.Raise and lower window several times to locate the red retraction tube in proper position.
36.Tighten all screws and nuts.
37.Reconnect the door lock rod.
38.Remove duct tap from service access openings.
39.Install the door trim panels per manual instructions.


now if somebody could point me where those two adjuster bolts are from #32, that would be nice.
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Re: VIN 3695 - Dutch Rob's Car

Postby RobvdVeer » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:26 pm

when it rains it pours...

just got locked inside my car. after giving up on the window derailing stuff i decided to close up the door cards and move on with something more satisfying (anything else). Closed the door, only to realise i couldn't get out anymore. Inner handle, outer handle, lock unlock, fuck me, tookoff the door cards again, pulled one of the rods. job done. Fuck me i didn't even touch those latches! they used to work perfectly fine (as did the window by the way).

Not amused. DeLorean chapter suspended for now.

ps. it might be the weather. i'm slightly cooked, perhaps the heat has its effect on the rods as well.
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Re: VIN 3695 - Dutch Rob's Car

Postby RobvdVeer » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:52 pm

Update: i fixed the lock and latch issue. Apparently a cable was blocking the mechanism. Still pretty annoyed by the window rail thing. :evil:

Time for some good news: My binnacle is on its way! Today I received a nice long UK tracking code and I just might receive it around the weekend if all goes well! Thanks Steve for going the extra miles.
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Re: VIN 3695 - Dutch Rob's Car

Postby ALEXAKOS » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:45 am

RobvdVeer wrote:Update: i fixed the lock and latch issue. Apparently a cable was blocking the mechanism. Still pretty annoyed by the window rail thing. :evil:

Time for some good news: My binnacle is on its way! Today I received a nice long UK tracking code and I just might receive it around the weekend if all goes well! Thanks Steve for going the extra miles.



Ha your D has missed you so much it's keeping you hostage!

Yes that lock unlock switch cable that runs behind the front lock mechanism is a very tight fit and gives it a hard time!
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Re: VIN 3695 - Dutch Rob's Car

Postby RobvdVeer » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:53 pm

RobvdVeer wrote:
32.Motor has been mounted. Before raising and lowering the window , loosen the two rear window rail nuts, raise and lower the window two or three times with the window switch for self alignment of the rail.


now if somebody could point me where those two adjuster bolts are from #32, that would be nice.

Found em:

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Re: VIN 3695 - Dutch Rob's Car

Postby RobvdVeer » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:22 pm

Another day, another weekend.

I just spent one hour in the garage to get that window permanently back on track. Letting the rails adjust themselves did the trick. I loosened the 4 nuts mentioned and ran the window up and down a few times. Then I tightened only the front rail and repeated the process a few times to see the required amount of play. I'm very happy now. I decided to stop playing and get clean.

And to put sugar on the cake, just as I was returning from the garage (where I cannot hear the doorbell), the postman rang with my new fibreglass binnacle. I would have missed him if I had decided to clean up first... Lucky me for being sloppy.

So, I unpacked the beauty and here it is. Yes I know, it took a while before it arrived but now I can start working on the binnacle and the flexi-print. Hopefully that solves a lot of electric gremlins.

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See you next time!
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Re: VIN 3695 - Dutch Rob's Car

Postby Admin-bloke » Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:28 am

Well worth the waitthough Rob, that looks mint !
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Re: VIN 3695 - Dutch Rob's Car

Postby RobvdVeer » Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:41 am

Admin-bloke wrote:Well worth the waitthough Rob, that looks mint !

That's because it is a brand-fucking-new binnacle made from fibreglass! Well worth the wait indeed.

Who wants a split binnacle? i'll soon have one for sale, lol
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Re: VIN 3695 - Dutch Rob's Car

Postby RobvdVeer » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:15 am

Moving on, I am now in the process of rebuilding my binnacle.

This is all easy stuff. Very rewarding, and not so much energy required. Much easier than putting a drop window back on track.

I've had a few shorts and errors on the flexi-print behind the gauges, so as I'm replacing the binnacle I might as well do a total transplant. These photos are documenting the removal of the bad print.

Here are the pics:

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Installation photo's will follow.
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Re: VIN 3695 - Dutch Rob's Car

Postby Admin-bloke » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:38 am

An opportunity to replace the lamps with Leds if you wanted to (apart from the alternator warning lamp). Welmoed did a write up for this somewhere. .
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