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Re: Car tax

Postby Darren C » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:24 pm

A Van wrote:Seems like the system is in a real muddle


Yes for the moment.

The DVLA website crashed yesterday so hardly anyone could buy tax on line.

But even when everything gets linked up.....

"A copy of a presentation given by Home Office and police officials at a conference last week, seen by the Daily Telegraph, reveals that “automatic number plate recognition” (ANPR) cameras make errors when scanning four in every 100 licence plates.
In 27 per cent of cases the cameras mistake a number for a letter, such as a zero for an “O”. In 25 per cent the error is down to screws or bolts positioned too close to characters. In another 25 per cent it is caused by broken or damaged plates, while in 22 per cent dirt on the number plate leads to a reading error. ANPR cameras currently capture about 30 million individual images of licence plates each day, suggesting as many as 1.2 million may be read incorrectly.
The figures in the presentation were taken from a study of 20,489 vehicles on roads in Oxfordshire, Berkshire and Buckinghamshire by David Joy, an independent ANPR consultant and former police officer. "

I do work at a place called Roke Manor Research, a MOD establishment. ANPR was invented and developed by the boffins there along with missile targeting systems etc. They are constantly updating the system as technology advances, yet even when I visited last week and talked to some of the guys the latest ANPR devices were still not infallible.
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Re: Car tax

Postby Darren C » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:44 pm

Check out some of the stuff they do like "Gecko" on their website under technology... Far more interesting than ANPR

http://www.roke.co.uk/

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Re: Car tax

Postby A Van » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:55 pm

Interesting info Darren, thanks
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Re: Car tax

Postby Dan 6511 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:30 am

Nhj23 wrote:Hello
Can you tell how much to tax my delorean 12 months , as I've just collected and about to register with dvla
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Re: Car tax

Postby Admin-bloke » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:25 am

I think it best to leave my cracked, dirty, misaligned bolt holed, non standard lettered number plate alone then ;)

Darren C wrote:
A Van wrote:Seems like the system is in a real muddle


Yes for the moment.

The DVLA website crashed yesterday so hardly anyone could buy tax on line.

But even when everything gets linked up.....

"A copy of a presentation given by Home Office and police officials at a conference last week, seen by the Daily Telegraph, reveals that “automatic number plate recognition” (ANPR) cameras make errors when scanning four in every 100 licence plates.
In 27 per cent of cases the cameras mistake a number for a letter, such as a zero for an “O”. In 25 per cent the error is down to screws or bolts positioned too close to characters. In another 25 per cent it is caused by broken or damaged plates, while in 22 per cent dirt on the number plate leads to a reading error. ANPR cameras currently capture about 30 million individual images of licence plates each day, suggesting as many as 1.2 million may be read incorrectly.
The figures in the presentation were taken from a study of 20,489 vehicles on roads in Oxfordshire, Berkshire and Buckinghamshire by David Joy, an independent ANPR consultant and former police officer. "

I do work at a place called Roke Manor Research, a MOD establishment. ANPR was invented and developed by the boffins there along with missile targeting systems etc. They are constantly updating the system as technology advances, yet even when I visited last week and talked to some of the guys the latest ANPR devices were still not infallible.
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Re: Car tax

Postby bandit » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:50 pm

I spotted this on another forum, made me giggle

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Re: Car tax

Postby Admin-bloke » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:11 pm

Well it's a good job that we didn't invest in lots of "Delorean Club" tax disc holders !

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Re: Car tax

Postby Manxmann » Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:22 pm

I could do with a tax disc holder, need to show of my £15 TAX in style :P
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Re: Car tax

Postby arranj » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:01 pm

bandit wrote:I was listening to a guy on the radio the other day, he reckoned as a conservative figure, the government would make an extra 93 million based on how many used cars are sold each year.

I've just SORNed my cars for the first time in 10 years. Only because it's just so easy now - just 3 clicks and I get sent a refund. So whereas I was previously paying £230 for the whole year I'll now just tax it for 5 months or so, saving £134.16. Times 2 because I've done 2 cars.
So whilst I may lose a month when I buy/sell, I'm gaining a lot more from the ease with which you can just tax and untax with a couple of clicks.

Plus I've just sold a load of tax discs on Ebay for £50! :lol:

So I think, whilst it probably harms the average user, the new system helps the classic car user. A few more quid in George Osbourne's pocket, but it's a thumbs up from me :thumbsup:
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Re: Car tax

Postby Dan 6511 » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:20 pm

I always used to do it in the old days too by posting the discs back to them using stamps I had steamed off old envelopes that hadn't been franked :lol: ;)
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