VIN 12306 'Auryn' : RHD twin turbo rebuild

[A Van]

Are you going to get a plate stamped then? So the 'new' vin is on the log book?

[A Van]

Do you know what the vin was?

[Dangermouse]

I think the point being made is that you can't just make up VINs.

If 12306 was never issued, which as far as I can tell, it wasn't, then I don't think you can take a blank VIN plate and stamp some random number on it.


Having said that:

Though here's a question for the members - if you bought a car from the US on just a Bill-Of-Sale (which some states do for older cars, no actual Title per-se), can you import it?

It's perfectly legal here to buy an older car on a BoS (in a state that accepts them) and register it in you name. You then get a Registration Document, that is really just proof that you paid the taxes, rather than Proof of Ownership.

[Starglider]

The car was partially assembled by the factory but not completed to roadworthy status. It does not have any former VIN.
It is now being completed and registered, following the Wooler Hodec pattern for the RHD conversion and either the stock or Legend pattern for the engine.
Both PJ Grady and DMC Texas have done this several times with incomplete cars.
If necessary we will hold off on fitting some of the non-stock components until after test & registration.
The fact that this DeLorean did not previously exist as a roadgoing vehicle makes me significantly happier about doing tons of modifications to it, as no one can reasonably accuse me of permenantly damaging a historic car.
I am located in London.

[arranj]

As far as I'm aware, when DMC sell a "new" car they still have to have a donor VIN at the very least, so they then claim it's a rebuild. If you were to import for example a car from the USA with a previously unregistered VIN, i.e. a "new car" then it would be (probably) be subject to an SVA test, which it would epically fail.
As for a car assembled over here I would have thought it would be a similar process - either use a donor VIN and the story that it is a rebuild of that VIN, so just an MOT required for registration, or..... create a new VIN and register it as a new car possibly on a Q plate as a kit car, or some other way, but then still surely an SVA test would be required?

What happened to that fire damaged car Chris was converting? I assume it's completed and sold?

[Starglider]

As for a car assembled over here I would have thought it would be a similar process - either use a donor VIN and the story that it is a rebuild of that VIN, so just an MOT required for registration, or..... create a new VIN and register it as a new car possibly on a Q plate as a kit car, or some other way, but then still surely an SVA test would be required?

To the best of my knowledge, the partially completed vehicle was originally assigned a chasis number, but I don't know whether the VIN plate was made during original construction or recently made up to reflect that chasis number.
Chris is confident that there will be no issues with registration, and since he has been through this several times before I am inclined to believe him on this point.

What happened to that fire damaged car Chris was converting? I assume it's completed and sold?

You'd have to ask him.

[bozzzydmc]

As for a car assembled over here I would have thought it would be a similar process - either use a donor VIN and the story that it is a rebuild of that VIN, so just an MOT required for registration, or..... create a new VIN and register it as a new car possibly on a Q plate as a kit car, or some other way, but then still surely an SVA test would be required?

To the best of my knowledge, the partially completed vehicle was originally assigned a chasis number, but I don't know whether the VIN plate was made during original construction or recently made up to reflect that chasis number.
Chris is confident that there will be no issues with registration, and since he has been through this several times before I am inclined to believe him on this point.

What happened to that fire damaged car Chris was converting? I assume it's completed and sold?

You'd have to ask him.

There will be a vin number on the dash / one attached to the drivers door closure plate

So where did this partially completed factory built car spring from ?

[Dangermouse]

Even unregistered cars in the US have what is known as an MSO - Manufacturers Statement of Origin document that includes the Vin. I would assume that this would be sufficient for UK registration. Although if you bought an un-reg car in the US, chances are you would keep it un-reg in the UK.

There is no VIN numbering on the steel frame, just on the fiberglass tub, and if it left the factory without a plate, then it is just a strangely shaped tub.

Having said that, I am sure Chris knows what he is doing and I am very interested to learn more about it. I would presume it would then be a 2012 DeLorean.

As stated above, DMCH have not been creating new VINs to date, though they may do something like that for the EV. Remains to be seen.

[Starglider]

So where did this partially completed factory built car spring from ?

PJ Grady seem to have a lot of strange and obscure DeLorean stuff stored in their UK and US workshops.

[A Van]

Are you changing the interior to Black?. as per the Wooler Hodec cars then?

The highest recorded frame number on late cars is 9277 I believe, so cant see where 12306 came from, are you saying it has a frame number of 12306?